1 00:00:18,820 --> 00:00:16,299 hi everybody welcome to the desert my 2 00:00:20,530 --> 00:00:18,830 name is Jeremy corbel my friends and 3 00:00:22,710 --> 00:00:20,540 enemies call me for name because I have 4 00:00:25,540 --> 00:00:22,720 four names jeremy kenyan locker corbel 5 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:25,550 I'm an accidental filmmaker especially 6 00:00:30,430 --> 00:00:27,290 in this subject I was a jiu-jitsu 7 00:00:32,980 --> 00:00:30,440 fighter I I did that my entire life and 8 00:00:36,250 --> 00:00:32,990 I like to say at one point my curiosity 9 00:00:37,810 --> 00:00:36,260 got weaponized I mean that literally in 10 00:00:39,610 --> 00:00:37,820 the sense that there was nothing that 11 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:39,620 would stop me from looking deeper into 12 00:00:44,050 --> 00:00:42,410 these subjects I find them fascinating I 13 00:00:46,690 --> 00:00:44,060 think everybody's got a piece to the 14 00:00:48,580 --> 00:00:46,700 puzzle but none of us know the entirety 15 00:00:50,530 --> 00:00:48,590 of what's going on there is a real 16 00:00:53,860 --> 00:00:50,540 phenomenon I think it's much broader 17 00:00:56,290 --> 00:00:53,870 than then is often perceived by an 18 00:00:59,160 --> 00:00:56,300 individual and so it kind of made it my 19 00:01:02,850 --> 00:00:59,170 my point to look into this my initial 20 00:01:05,740 --> 00:01:02,860 introduction into these realms luckily I 21 00:01:07,450 --> 00:01:05,750 met George Knapp he became a mentor to 22 00:01:09,730 --> 00:01:07,460 me as a journalist I really looked up to 23 00:01:11,860 --> 00:01:09,740 him he broke the area 51 story you all 24 00:01:13,539 --> 00:01:11,870 kind of know him from the Lazar case you 25 00:01:16,750 --> 00:01:13,549 know he kind of helped guide me there's 26 00:01:18,940 --> 00:01:16,760 a powerful signal to noise problem since 27 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:18,950 the beginning of looking at these topics 28 00:01:22,510 --> 00:01:20,930 there's two layers of deception one is 29 00:01:24,070 --> 00:01:22,520 the visitors themselves the others the 30 00:01:26,410 --> 00:01:24,080 intelligence agencies and then the third 31 00:01:29,109 --> 00:01:26,420 actually would be ourselves you know we 32 00:01:30,190 --> 00:01:29,119 often take our own perspective and try 33 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:30,200 to apply to something we don't 34 00:01:34,899 --> 00:01:32,930 understand and so I think that all those 35 00:01:38,580 --> 00:01:34,909 layers of kind of deception even our own 36 00:01:42,250 --> 00:01:38,590 deception causes a kind of unique way a 37 00:01:43,749 --> 00:01:42,260 clouded way to look at these topics / 38 00:01:46,870 --> 00:01:43,759 one I don't even know that these are 39 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:46,880 extraterrestrials I know for a fact that 40 00:01:52,660 --> 00:01:50,450 there are aircraft in the sky that are 41 00:01:54,700 --> 00:01:52,670 flying with impunity and they have been 42 00:01:57,789 --> 00:01:54,710 for a very long time probably since and 43 00:01:59,080 --> 00:01:57,799 you know back to antiquity and I think a 44 00:02:01,179 --> 00:01:59,090 lot of the people in the government it 45 00:02:03,219 --> 00:02:01,189 just as confused or people I've talked 46 00:02:05,050 --> 00:02:03,229 with just as confused as we are there 47 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:05,060 may be a small section of people within 48 00:02:09,330 --> 00:02:07,130 our outside maybe of the United States 49 00:02:11,009 --> 00:02:09,340 government that control this information 50 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:11,019 that's what it appears to some of the 51 00:02:16,949 --> 00:02:13,330 witness ever talked with but I don't 52 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:16,959 know so all I can do as a filmmaker is 53 00:02:22,170 --> 00:02:19,330 talk with people about what I say their 54 00:02:25,710 --> 00:02:22,180 beliefs are now some people's beliefs 55 00:02:28,589 --> 00:02:25,720 are founded more in personal experience 56 00:02:30,780 --> 00:02:28,599 or you know actual hands-on experience 57 00:02:32,610 --> 00:02:30,790 and other people it's not based on that 58 00:02:35,009 --> 00:02:32,620 so I try to find the people that have 59 00:02:36,330 --> 00:02:35,019 hands on experience and talk with him a 60 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:36,340 lot of them have happened to be 61 00:02:40,229 --> 00:02:38,290 scientists i know that this panel is 62 00:02:41,759 --> 00:02:40,239 kind of about propulsion and science is 63 00:02:44,309 --> 00:02:41,769 that it or something like that engine 64 00:02:45,990 --> 00:02:44,319 okay so so let's you know let's let's 65 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:46,000 talk about a couple top because on that 66 00:02:49,890 --> 00:02:48,250 my initial introduction to the subject 67 00:02:51,839 --> 00:02:49,900 matter was actually through a number of 68 00:02:53,220 --> 00:02:51,849 military friends that i had you know i 69 00:02:55,199 --> 00:02:53,230 learned a lot of information like I'm 70 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:55,209 very credible and then a number of 71 00:02:59,819 --> 00:02:58,090 people I was connected to so for example 72 00:03:02,400 --> 00:02:59,829 some of the people I've recently been 73 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:02,410 filming with for my films that I did a 74 00:03:07,530 --> 00:03:05,610 short film on Lazar I find his story 75 00:03:09,750 --> 00:03:07,540 fascinating and I found his story 76 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:09,760 important and so I've been you know 77 00:03:15,809 --> 00:03:12,250 spending a lot of my effort digging 78 00:03:19,500 --> 00:03:15,819 deeper into that you know next was John 79 00:03:22,020 --> 00:03:19,510 Lear the godfather of conspiracy now as 80 00:03:23,550 --> 00:03:22,030 an individual what an incredible human 81 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:23,560 being I mean he at one time he was the 82 00:03:28,110 --> 00:03:24,810 youngest man ever to climb the 83 00:03:29,789 --> 00:03:28,120 Matterhorn as a kid he's only two people 84 00:03:31,500 --> 00:03:29,799 flew under the Golden Gate Bridge with a 85 00:03:34,229 --> 00:03:31,510 busted out and Jim the guys lived a 86 00:03:36,210 --> 00:03:34,239 crazy life and he's got some incredible 87 00:03:38,580 --> 00:03:36,220 belief systems I mean out there as a 88 00:03:41,539 --> 00:03:38,590 human being I like to kind of look at 89 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:41,549 people and say how did you come to your 90 00:03:45,659 --> 00:03:43,690 understanding because I'm sure some of 91 00:03:48,180 --> 00:03:45,669 you have wild beliefs that are not 92 00:03:50,009 --> 00:03:48,190 congruent with mine either but we're all 93 00:03:51,539 --> 00:03:50,019 looking at similar things I'd like to 94 00:03:54,330 --> 00:03:51,549 get to understand i'd like to get to 95 00:03:57,210 --> 00:03:54,340 meet people and look at what they think 96 00:04:00,030 --> 00:03:57,220 and how they got there i'm also doing a 97 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:00,040 whole series on a guy called nano man 98 00:04:04,170 --> 00:04:01,690 George Knapp and I released his real 99 00:04:07,860 --> 00:04:04,180 name his name is Chris Cooper he's a 100 00:04:09,569 --> 00:04:07,870 really really fascinating scientist who 101 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:09,579 works primarily in carbon nanotubes 102 00:04:14,339 --> 00:04:12,250 thread construction but also was working 103 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:14,349 on a propulsion system that gave it a 104 00:04:18,149 --> 00:04:16,450 cool name called it the space Drive but 105 00:04:18,729 --> 00:04:18,159 essentially that the Navy was studying 106 00:04:20,140 --> 00:04:18,739 it and I 107 00:04:22,510 --> 00:04:20,150 through my navel contacts that's who 108 00:04:24,309 --> 00:04:22,520 told me to go talk with him and I filmed 109 00:04:25,510 --> 00:04:24,319 him now this is my fifth year filming 110 00:04:27,490 --> 00:04:25,520 with him and I've only released two 111 00:04:29,830 --> 00:04:27,500 shorts so there's a bunch coming about 112 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:29,840 about his scientific endeavors some of 113 00:04:32,860 --> 00:04:31,490 which will fall flat on their face but 114 00:04:35,379 --> 00:04:32,870 other ones because he's pushing the 115 00:04:38,290 --> 00:04:35,389 bleeding edge have had and will have 116 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:38,300 success so success or failure I love 117 00:04:43,089 --> 00:04:39,530 working with people who are really 118 00:04:44,650 --> 00:04:43,099 trying to push the envelope and again as 119 00:04:46,300 --> 00:04:44,660 my curiosity has been weaponized that's 120 00:04:47,969 --> 00:04:46,310 what I'm going to try to do in my film 121 00:04:50,409 --> 00:04:47,979 work so you know are these 122 00:04:53,469 --> 00:04:50,419 extraterrestrials extra dimensionals or 123 00:04:56,860 --> 00:04:53,479 extra temporals you know who knows time 124 00:04:58,570 --> 00:04:56,870 and space is relative and that's what's 125 00:05:01,300 --> 00:04:58,580 interesting that's what's interesting to 126 00:05:03,129 --> 00:05:01,310 me so there's a huge mystery here and I 127 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:03,139 like you I'm trying to get a little bit 128 00:05:07,570 --> 00:05:05,330 closer to that and I think science is an 129 00:05:09,580 --> 00:05:07,580 aspect of that and I'm sure a lot of you 130 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:09,590 are here are here for a reason you have 131 00:05:13,540 --> 00:05:11,810 some sort of interest in the subject and 132 00:05:15,490 --> 00:05:13,550 I don't know if it stems from a personal 133 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:15,500 experience I have not had one myself 134 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:18,530 that I can classify as you know and a 135 00:05:24,580 --> 00:05:21,650 UFO experience but I no longer have the 136 00:05:27,249 --> 00:05:24,590 the luxury of disbelief if you spend any 137 00:05:30,689 --> 00:05:27,259 amount of time looking into this subject 138 00:05:33,850 --> 00:05:30,699 matter there is a real phenomenon but my 139 00:05:36,850 --> 00:05:33,860 perspective is it is so much stranger 140 00:05:38,709 --> 00:05:36,860 than just lights in the sky and and if 141 00:05:40,689 --> 00:05:38,719 you really look into the cases and you 142 00:05:42,550 --> 00:05:40,699 really talk with people and you go deep 143 00:05:45,820 --> 00:05:42,560 into this as a journalist you will find 144 00:05:48,249 --> 00:05:45,830 that often the strangest aspects are not 145 00:05:51,129 --> 00:05:48,259 reported so you all know about 146 00:05:53,350 --> 00:05:51,139 skinwalker ranch Robert Bigelow just put 147 00:05:56,350 --> 00:05:53,360 beam right so that's the inflatable 148 00:05:57,879 --> 00:05:56,360 space habitat that he hooked on to the 149 00:05:59,890 --> 00:05:57,889 ISS and now they're planning a much 150 00:06:01,600 --> 00:05:59,900 bigger one so at one point he bought 151 00:06:04,149 --> 00:06:01,610 this place called skinwalker ranch where 152 00:06:05,469 --> 00:06:04,159 not only was there UFO activity but 153 00:06:07,740 --> 00:06:05,479 there was also a whole bunch of what 154 00:06:10,540 --> 00:06:07,750 you'd call for lack of a better term 155 00:06:12,189 --> 00:06:10,550 paranormal psychokinesis like all these 156 00:06:13,540 --> 00:06:12,199 strange things were going on he had a 157 00:06:16,270 --> 00:06:13,550 number of scientists studying it for 158 00:06:18,129 --> 00:06:16,280 years trying to capture the phenomena 159 00:06:19,870 --> 00:06:18,139 and everybody I talked with who worked 160 00:06:21,580 --> 00:06:19,880 there on the ranch says that it was 161 00:06:24,670 --> 00:06:21,590 there was a it was a trickster element 162 00:06:27,550 --> 00:06:24,680 that it's not just about UFOs that 163 00:06:29,090 --> 00:06:27,560 there's another aspect to this that 164 00:06:30,950 --> 00:06:29,100 enlarged were 165 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:30,960 missing and it made me go back and read 166 00:06:37,310 --> 00:06:33,890 all of john keells books if you hit him 167 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:37,320 fascinating stuff now I got two points 168 00:06:40,910 --> 00:06:39,210 on propulsion it's not my specialty in 169 00:06:43,490 --> 00:06:40,920 my field but I document a number of 170 00:06:45,770 --> 00:06:43,500 people that work in propulsion and two 171 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:45,780 things that I found most fascinating to 172 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:47,250 one is there's number of people working 173 00:06:51,470 --> 00:06:49,410 with new meta materials essentially 174 00:06:55,220 --> 00:06:51,480 materials that have not existed here on 175 00:06:58,220 --> 00:06:55,230 earth before there's a almost perfect 176 00:07:00,890 --> 00:06:58,230 atomic layer MIT now of these elements 177 00:07:03,470 --> 00:07:00,900 which provides a completely significant 178 00:07:05,900 --> 00:07:03,480 different structure and one of the guys 179 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:05,910 I'm working with has something he's 180 00:07:09,470 --> 00:07:07,530 calling the space Drive and what's 181 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:09,480 fascinating and it's in its preliminary 182 00:07:13,820 --> 00:07:12,330 rd phases is he's you know looking to 183 00:07:15,890 --> 00:07:13,830 see if any of these metamaterials 184 00:07:17,150 --> 00:07:15,900 interact with the environment in a 185 00:07:20,090 --> 00:07:17,160 different way and in fact he believes 186 00:07:21,500 --> 00:07:20,100 that they do and he's getting small bits 187 00:07:23,870 --> 00:07:21,510 of propulsion this is why the Navy was 188 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:23,880 studying it where you are getting 189 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:25,770 propulsion off of a field that is yet to 190 00:07:30,740 --> 00:07:28,170 be described is the best he can describe 191 00:07:32,750 --> 00:07:30,750 it so I think that with the future of 192 00:07:34,610 --> 00:07:32,760 humanity moving forward and with our 193 00:07:36,620 --> 00:07:34,620 printing abilities getting better and 194 00:07:37,940 --> 00:07:36,630 better and better I think that we can 195 00:07:40,220 --> 00:07:37,950 create alloys we can create 196 00:07:42,380 --> 00:07:40,230 metamaterials that may give us new 197 00:07:44,420 --> 00:07:42,390 properties kind of like the the stealth 198 00:07:45,740 --> 00:07:44,430 program new properties we haven't seen 199 00:07:47,690 --> 00:07:45,750 before propulsions what got me 200 00:07:49,850 --> 00:07:47,700 interested in this and then I would also 201 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:49,860 like to say man let's go 10,000 years in 202 00:07:54,140 --> 00:07:52,290 the future for Humanity we just maybe 203 00:07:56,390 --> 00:07:54,150 six months ago when was it we measured 204 00:07:59,150 --> 00:07:56,400 and acknowledged the first gravity waves 205 00:08:01,760 --> 00:07:59,160 so it only took a supernova for that but 206 00:08:03,470 --> 00:08:01,770 essentially gravity you know is a wave 207 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:03,480 it's been theorized now we know that's 208 00:08:07,370 --> 00:08:05,250 cool and just like any way you can 209 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:07,380 amplify it again who knows unless it's a 210 00:08:11,780 --> 00:08:09,210 huge significant leap in technology for 211 00:08:14,090 --> 00:08:11,790 us humans you know maybe 10,000 years 212 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:14,100 but potentially that is the most 213 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:17,850 fascinating propulsion idea is the 214 00:08:22,370 --> 00:08:19,770 amplification of gravity waves 215 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:22,380 distorting space-time itself you need a 216 00:08:26,780 --> 00:08:24,690 high energy source and then that's where 217 00:08:29,090 --> 00:08:26,790 you get to some crazy realms but people 218 00:08:32,450 --> 00:08:29,100 are working on these things both pulsion 219 00:08:34,340 --> 00:08:32,460 ideas but also power sources so I'd like 220 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:34,350 to see commanding at least ten 221 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:36,210 years to be able to amplify gravity 222 00:08:41,750 --> 00:08:38,010 waves and see what happens Mike you know 223 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:41,760 get getting here much easier you know to 224 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:43,530 contact in the desert from wherever you 225 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:47,250 live I'm here like you wanting to learn 226 00:08:50,660 --> 00:08:49,170 the truth that I'm making films on it so 227 00:08:53,060 --> 00:08:50,670 all my films are extraordinary beliefs 228 00:08:54,550 --> 00:08:53,070 calm and i hope you engaged them and I 229 00:08:56,900 --> 00:08:54,560 hope we learn more in the years to come